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True, although it's easier to claim on the warranty if the servicing is done by the dealer otherwise you get the extra step to prove work was done properly. Also, if you have a long dealership history, you're more likely to get goodwill. The relax warranty was a clever move, and with hybrids it makes sense as you also get the HHC free. I'd be very reluctant do take my car there for any other work, e.g. tyres and brakes and especially non-hybrid system related diagnostics, but for basic servicing I've been happy with them so far.

Hi Mark,while a loose belt is a common problem, some Toyota Yaris owners have reported issues with a specific pulley, the tensioner pulley, causing the rattling noise you described. This pulley keeps the serpentine belt tight. A failing tensioner pulley bearing can cause a racket around the alternator area. Check the serpentine belt for any cracks, wear, or signs of excessive oil contamination. Look at the tensioner pulley for any wobble or excessive play. While the engine is off, press down on the belt with your thumb. There should be some give, but it shouldn't be slack.Hope this helps.

Well, I am now able to answer the burning question that many of you have... Yes, I'm afraid that new cars have the dreaded Mutlu battery in them But, the one I've got seems to be in rude health (it's been standing doing nothing for 3 days...) ...and that is positively my last word about batteries!!

I think that that is the more likely one... Well of course! You know why that is don't you? They're all hooligans in Italy! Bit like @Cyker really! 🤣 (running for cover... 😉)

I don't know, it's lighter than air.

Oi I'm no hooligan! ... I just drive like one sometimes...

It always needs a reset every time you do anything with the tyres, even if you just increase the pressure in them a little.

Yeah that’s what they said, that if anyone else other than a Toyota dealership does any work on the car at all then the warranty is completely void! The chancers… I’ve only ever owned cars that were proper second hand, sometimes third hand and were “sold as seen” so to speak. This is the first newish car I’ve owned that comes with a proper warranty. The new tyre was a completely brand new one so that’s interesting because the other tyres will need replacing just before the MOT in November so yeah…that’s very helpful! All this advice is really helpful because it gives me something to go in with, thank you!

As others have said, servicing at Toyota on a car outside the manufacturers warranty will extend it up to 10yr, but requiring a new car to be maintained within the dealer network to maintain warranty was made illegal, in Europe at least, many moons ago. Manufacturers are no longer allowed to hold a gun to your head. As long as the car is serviced to the same schedule as it would be at a Toyota dealership, and the same parts are used, there's no reason the warranty wil still be intact. I've never had to service our Toyota yet, but with every other manufacturer I've owned, the problem has been I've never found an indi or specialist to be any cheaper ( often found them to be more expensive ). If they're slightly cheaper then the main dealer has always matched their price. If it's being serviced much cheaper elsewhere, chances are they're not servicing it to the manufacturers recommendations.

Is this what they told you? It is literally against the law for them to invalidate the warranty just because you took the car somewhere else, as long as they're VAT-registered and use the right parts and materials. They definitely couldn't invalidate the warranty just from you getting someone else to look at the car. One other thing I was wondering, is if the other tyres are quite old and thus worn - If so, the new one will be slightly bigger as it'll have more tread, but I don't know how sensitive the passive TPMS system is and whether it would notice that...

Hi Gayle.since you've already booked your Aygo for a full inspection, you can definitely highlight these possibilities to the dealership. Explain that it's an indirect system.Ask them to check the owner's manual or relevant resources for the proper reset procedure specific to your Aygo. Mention the possibility of a faulty ABS wheel speed sensor causing the issue and request them to inspect the sensors for any damage.Ask them to confirm they have done this on your invoice

IIRC the Aygo doesn't use TPMS sensors, and detects punctures by sensing if one wheel isn't turning at the same rate as the others. It may just be there's a reset procedure that needs to be done (Check the manual), or there is some damage to one of the ABS wheel speed sensors which is causing this intermittently. In my experience Toyota dealers tend not to be very good at diagnostics; You may be better off finding an experienced local garage or mechanic with a good reputation to look at it. Edit: One stupid thing to check is the wheels are all the same size - Check the tyre sidewalls for something that looks like 175/55r15 or something like that, and make sure they're the same on all the tyres. It's unlikely but possible the wrong sized tyre was put on!

Owned a used 2016 for 5 years. Never once serviced at the dealer. Had 4 oil and filter changes during that time, took it to national tyres which was about £50-60 per change. It just needs oil & oil filter change as the main part. Changed the air filter once and couple of times the pollen filter, that's it. Saved 700-800 from dealership price. Now I have a new car have to service at the dealer for a few times at least to maintain warranty.

Hello Shelagh, Welcome to our forum, I owned a 2016 hybrid yaris, my next door neighbour owns a 2023, he is very content with it...... You will be saving a lot on petrol. Self charge, no need to plug in. Automatic gearbox, most of the cars nowadays are Auto, easy to drive, you left leg will rest, you will need only right one for the break and accelerator.... I did find it roomy enough for myself, am tall and big guy.... I am very happy for you, great choice !!!!

welcome Shelagh...good choice.

Hi Shelagh, welcome to the TOC. You will not be disappointed, it's the best small car on the market, I'm on my third Yaris and my 7th Toyota. Enjoy your new car, we love pictures, keep us posted.

Toyota dealers won't use non-Toyota parts, probably a condition of their franchise or something. My advice is just get a modest portable jump starter and leave it somewhere still accessible in the car when the battery goes (i.e. not the boot!), check its charge every 6 months or so, and leave things as they are. When the 12v battery does eventually die, you can jump start it then take to Halfords or something to get the Yuasa battery and even have them fit it if you want. I've been doing that for the past 3 years and still haven't had the 12v battery fail

Thanks for reply. It's only through reading this forum I became aware of possible battery problems. I will certainly monitor this and push for yuasa when it goes in for service. Wearing my "Where's my free battery upgrade"? t-shirt might do it?

You need to think about resale value as well. You have got a Design. Adding a lot, or even all, of the Excel bits won't make it an Excel, so it will still resell at Design prices ... or less even as the trade are wary of modified cars. Standard rules!

Thanks all ! Think i will try the kumho tyres, doing a fair few miles and it’s hardly a performance model lol, so no need for premium, mid range should do fine !

I imagine it is a bit revvy on some of those welsh hills!! I remember once we had a conference there and we were 3-up in a colleagues' 1 litre VW Polo... that was a mistake; Poor thing could barely get up some of the hills without going into 1st!

All of the above mentioned by Cyker are good and affordable 👌.

Not if it is Smart Connect as in my Yaris Cross. If I get in the car without my phone I will only have the standard maps display. If I have my phone in my pocket, and my phone is the one connected to the car, the Phone soft tab will show my phone. I can then call up the phone book of recently used numbers and initiate a call. Or i can scroll through the phone contacts on the car display. If I now plug in my phone it takes over the previous phone link. I can now use voice control to make my phone calls. If I have Amazon Music or Spotify, and AA is set up to access these then I can call Google and request a tune. There will be many other features but this is all I use. Is that OK?

Have also had good experience of Michelin CC2 and Goodyear Vector all-season tyres

As per others, I think most tyres are much of the same, especially on cars like a Yaris ! Me? Well when I change tyres, I now go for an all-weather option. There are the obvious advantages in winter ( again, not as much as might be expected on a size the Yaris uses ) but they often lead to less cabin noise which for a Yaris, is an advantage. Michelin CrossClimate and Goodyear Vector all seasons have certainly worked for me in reducing road noise ( not fitted to a Toyota tho ).

Not done it yet but have on other similar cars. There are some good videos on e.g youtube and looks to take around 30min per door. You only need to cover around 25-30% of the outer skin surface which you can access through the access openings. I use Kilmat pads you can buy on Amazon. Worth also getting a trim removal tool kit for £7.

I didn’t even think about making sure the tyres are the same ones! I’ll check that in the morning when I go to work. If I take it anywhere other than the dealership, it invalidates my warranty 🙄 It’s surely no coincidence this has only happened since the new tyre was put on. Thank you for taking the time to reply, I do appreciate it 🙂

I don't regret getting my MK4 Yaris. The problem of battery discharge while parked is not unique to this model, Toyotas or hybrids. The underlying cause is that all but the most basic modern cars consume electricity while standing: keyless entry, alarm systems and 4G data connection (used to communicate with apps) all drain power from the battery. When Covid came I had a diesel Fiesta that had to be jump-started twice because the battery went flat. On both occasions it had been standing less than a fortnight. The Yaris is more economical and has more comfort and safety features than the Fiesta, which I like.

Even mid range tyres are fine with the MK3 not going anywhere fast (I had one).

TBH I just look at the premium tyres the tyre place sells and pick the cheapest ones It usually ends up being Goodyear/Dunlop or Hankook, but if you have an ATS Euromaster nearby they are still doing a discount deal on Michelin tyres.

Hi Shelagh, welcome lots of good advice when you need it and always welcome when you give it. Congratulations on your first Toyota and let us know when it is delivered and your first impressions.Well done for joining the Toyota family.

You have vibrations because of the wheels, these are way too large and out of speciations plus they might be a manufacturer fault in one or all of them. And btw the best size for these cars is 205/55 16

The 0% is on the EVs as it is at other manufacturers. When I bought my RAV I was having a good chat with the sales chap who was pretty candid about how the dealership make their money. He went on to say that there will be a 4/5 figure fine in future for each non ev care sale that doesnt meet the x% of total car sales being EV. Pure madness, it will end up being a scandal in future. Cars being sold to people who's needs are not met. I'm sure EV works for some and thats great but for many (my self included) its a future hellscape of car ownership.

I have a 23 TS with the 17 wheels, and road noise is much higher than other cars that I have owned. I drove one with the 16 wheels, and the comfort was much better. with the 17 wheels, I can feel every little bump on the road.

It's a more powerful electric motor for the increase in bhp/torque, read it in the Toyota press release.

Factory upgrades don't hurt, electric mirrors, power tailgate, it depends on your skill level TBH Sat nav - not really worth the hassle and cost - it's just an add-on module finding used parts can be a pain and expensive, especially as the cross has only been out 3 years

There’s a genuine collapsible hat of that nature. It’s called an Opera Hat. I’m not joking.

My experience of Frensh cars is that they are verry comfortable and and in front of inventions but... not top notch in quality. Our youngest daughter use a wheelchair so we have looked at Toyota Proace City Verso (preferably electric) cause its abilities to load the wheelchair a bit easier but Proace is an Stellantis ( as Citroen and Peugeot) car and I suppose its not standard Toyota standard

Twice now at a local filling station I have seen a Tesla at the pumps 😂

the front bumper, roof lining, back seat and dash would be out the first week, I do enjoy those little projects. And what position did you finish in the rally?,

You're as bad as me Don! lol! 🤣

I’d love one as a second vehicle if I could justify the expense. I really enjoyed that little car and although the front bumper, roof lining, back seat and dash would be out the first week, I do enjoy those little projects.

Absolutely no regrets at all. I changed from a gorgeous GT86 back in 2014 (boo-hoo.. 😢) to our 1st Yaris Hybrid and was as impressed with that then as I am with my 4th one now and this new Mk4 with the 5th generation power plant (130) is an absolute gem so far... (see my other thread here...)

No regrets at all with our Scarlet Flare Yaris Excel. lovely to drive and no battery issues at all

Absolutely not. Loving mine to bits. I'm a very low mileage user and might only use it once a week at most, sometimes not even that. Got mine plugged into a trickle charger but I've been doing that for all my vehicles for the last few years as they all suffer from lack of use. So this is nothing unique Turning off keyless entry reduces battery usage and improves security

If the whole 12v battery concept is still hard to understand, you can compare it to a laptop computer. Ready state in a car equals having AC adapter plugged in. Using a car without the Ready state would be like using this laptop on a battery. You understand that it will only withstand like 2 hours or something. Not using a car would be similar to having a laptop in sleep mode. It's ready to use but it uses up the battery. So if you don't charge the laptop and leave it sleeping, it will discharge eventually. Charging it only for 10 minutes would not be enough to leave it on sleep for another week. Maybe oversimplified example but that's something everyone might be familiar with.

Why anyone would regret buying the best car in class? Battery problem it’s not on each and every car. There are many that had it but not all. If you have a battery issue just buy a new better quality battery and you will be alright. Yaris mk4 is really good car 👍

I would have bought it again despite the issues I'm having with it 🙂 It charges when you have your "ignition" on (Ready text displayed). It uses the high voltage battery to charge the 12v battery. Mileage doesn't matter, only time. It discharges as it powers various systems onboard the car as the high voltage one is used for driving, A/C and charging 12v only. So everything else is powered from 12v. That's why you don't want to use the car (radio, lights, etc) without Ready state as it discharges the battery which is rather small. But there are things that discharge the battery even if you are not doing anything and these are remote control module, keyless entry module and some power taken by standby mode of a car computer. They will use up fully charged 12v battery in around a month, probably less. Experience may vary. So if you drive occasionally and only short periods, the battery will fail you sooner or later

No, on the contrary I'm happy. My previous car, a diesel Renault Captur, also suffered the same problems, but worse. In fact most newish cars use much more battery power to keep the electrics on just in case the driver wants to use keyless entry.